Garmin announced two new inReach devices shortly after the New Year, immediately prior to the Consumer Electronics Show (CES):
Last week I was able to inspect them first-hand and discuss them with representatives at Outdoor Retailer (OR). The original manufacturer of the inReach, DeLorme, was purchased by Garmin a year ago. So the inReach+ models, which are the third-generation of inReach, are the first overseen by Garmin.
Functionality & specs
To understand the inReach SE+ and Explorer+, it helps to temporarily forget what you know about the current inReach devices, which I have written about here and here. The history can be helpful, but can also cause confusion.
Both new devices are two-way text messengers. Using just the unit, or paired with a smartphone via the Earthmate app, you can send and receive text messages. This assumes you have an active service plan and sufficient satellite reception.
They share a similar build to the popular Garmin GPSMAP 64. Weight of 7.5 oz, full-color 2.3-inch screen (1.4” x 2.9”), water-resistance rated to IPX7, and battery life up to 100 hours with 10-minute tracking. The control buttons on the Garmin 64 and the inReach+ are arranged differently.
Topographic map data — specifically, DeLorme’s TOPO North America — is pre-loaded onto the Explorer+. The SE+ is not preloaded with any mapping data, but it does have a simple grid map (i.e. no features or contour lines, just its location plus any imported or created routes, waypoints, and breadcrumbs).
The Explorer+ has 2 GB of internal memory for additional map data. However, only certain data is compatible. USGS quads cannot be loaded onto the Explorer+, for example. For navigating Europe, you can load Open Street Maps; the built-in memory is sufficient for about six countries. Syncing of data requires a hard connection with a mini-USB/USB cable.
Routes and waypoints can be imported to both devices through your online inReach account (formerly the DeLorme Explore portal). In the field, you can create waypoints and breadcrumb tracks, and navigate to saved features.
Additional data tiles — e.g. Landsat, USGS quads — can be accessed through the Earthmate app. The inReach antenna can be used to pinpoint current location, rather than relying on the phone.
To use the Explorer+ topographic maps and the SE+ grid map, the devices must be activated initially but do not need an active service subscription. In this sense, they could be considered GPS units with inReach functionality.
The Explorer+ has a digital compass, barometer, and accelerometer, which makes it a more powerful standalone GPS device. For example, it does not need to be moving to know the direction in which it is pointing.
The SE+ retails for $400; the Explorer+, for $450. I almost feel that the price differential was kept intentionally small to encourage Explorer+ purchases. The $80 difference between the current inReach SE and Explorer probably deters more purchases of the premium product.
inReach+ versus current inReach: What’s the difference?
The new inReach+ and current inReach units have most things in common, like:
- Satellite text messaging;
- Earthmate app connectivity;
- User interface;
- Long-lasting battery life; and,
- Service plan options and cost.
There are also a few obvious differences. The inReach+ units:
- Cost more, by $70 to $100 at retail;
- Weigh about a half-ounce (15 g) more;
- Feature a bigger screen, though the size and resolution is hardly on par with even entry-level smartphones; and,
- Better protect the S.O.S. button.
The new inReach SE+ is more similar to the current inReach Explorer than to the current SE. The current SE has no mapping functionality. The inReach SE+ has basic features: a feature-less grid map, and the ability to import and create waypoints, routes, and breadcrumbs. It’s like an old-school GPS unit, before they were spec’d with decent screens and maps.
The new inReach Explorer+ is best compared to a conventional handheld GPS unit, but with inReach functionality.
Should I upgrade?
If you already own an inReach SE or inReach Explorer, you may be wondering if there are compelling reasons to buy an inReach+.
It’s not a simple answer, and largely depends on your current and anticipated use, as well as your budget. If you only use the inReach for text messaging, and if you have another GPS solution (e.g. GaiaGPS app) or don’t need one, then the current inReach SE will remain adequate. But if you would appreciate having a combined inReach/GPS, then the Explorer+ would be worth a look.
If you own a current Explorer, the Explorer+ offers only one benefit: it can be used as a GPS even without an active service subscription. If you can avoid paying for months when you hardly use the service (but sometimes want a GPS), an upgrade may actually make financial sense.
What questions do you have about the inReach SE+ and Explorer+? These are new and high-tech devices, and will take some discussion to fully grasp their nuances.
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I’ve definitely been eyeing these. I have a failing GPSMAP 60CSx that I love, but have also been thinking about getting some sort of satellite communicator / locator like an inReach or Spot. There are various nuances like you say that sway me back and forth. For example, for a backcountry hike or ascent, a Spot seems sufficient to allow others to track you, however, you MUST sign up for a full year service. I like that inReach allows a la carte monthly service if you just need it for a single long trip. With my dying Garmin, this many really seal the deal for me to go with the new Explorer+. I look forward to your in-depth analysis later. Thanks!
Thanks for.the summary and comparison. I actually just bought an Inreach SE when they were heavily discounted last year…probabky to clear out stock for these new ones. I was having buyers remorse thinking I should have waited for the new version. With the price difference and the fact that I really only want emergency contact and some preset texts to my better half, your summary has confirmed I am good to go and saved $200.
You have the right device for your needs. Wise to snag a discounted one.
I have an explorer. The GPS has always bugged me just because it’s not very clear/detailed with topo maps, etc.
Is the new one much better in your opinion?
The Explorer+ will have a bigger screen, but the base map is unchanged — the DeLorme TOPO North America data. So it will still look like a bitmap drawing from 1992.
I have the previous generation SE. In addition to two-way text messaging, I’ve used it for recording tracks, letting others follow my progress via the website, and pulling a weather report. I am assuming they are not removing any of this support from the previous versions?
I was not told that service for current inReach models would decline or be phased out.
I’m calling in a short on Garmin stock
Any news on if it will work with Garmin’s “Base Camp”
Not sure, I will ask.
I’m preparing a list of questions for Garmin’s media rep, so fire away if you have more Q’s.
I have a question. When will these be available to retailers?
Are good paper maps plus Explorer+ with new screen – despite old Delorme topo – all you need to navigate effectively? Would you still feel compelled to check Gaia? How valuable do you find knowing elevation between waypoints?
Here is my map system, https://andrewskurka.com/2015/backpacking-topographical-maps-types-sources-formats/
The GaiaGPS and Explorer+ would be mostly redundant. While the displayed base maps are slightly different (refer to the side-by-side screenshot in this page, https://andrewskurka.com/2015/delorme-inreach-se-explorer-how-to-choose-differences-recommendations/) they are functionally the same.
Elevation between waypoints can be very useful depending on the situation.
You had to figure that Garmin would combine the 64 and the inReach when they bought DeLorme. I have owned Garmin 60s, 62s, and 64s receivers, and tested the inReach Explorer for a GPS group within the Potomac Appalachian Trail Club. I remember camping in WV’s Laurel Fork South Wilderness and not getting any satellite connectivity for the inReach, which is why I never bought the unit for my personal needs. Several questions:
1. Has the new design affected satellite connectivity for communications?
2. Does the unit’s GPS tracking capability have the same level of flexibility as the 64 series units? (i.e. can you adjust the timing of the track’s data, can you still download and adjust data on Basecamp, can you make tracks on Basecamp and then import them into the receiver?)
3. Does Garmin still plan to produce receiver models without the inReach capability, or will the 60/62/64 series receivers be phased out?
4. Will texts be able to be composed on a smartphone and then sent out?
Thanks for this report!
Here’s the manual w/ answers to 2 & 4 http://static.garmin.com/pumac/EN-inreachse-explorer-plus.htm
I also am interested in knowing if the Explorer+ has equivalent GPS functionality to the GPSMAP 60/62/64 models. The manual doesn’t really answer that question.
For example, the GPSMAP has the ability to create a very detailed track during a hike (or whatever) that can be seen on the map screen during the hike (then export GPX afterwards). Also having the ability to easily create and select waypoints by entering coordinates on the unit, then getting data like distance and bearing to that waypoint. Bonus points for being able to configure the map screen’s dashboard fields.
Comparing the Maps & Memory specs between the 64st and Explorer+ on garmin.com…
Memory: 8GB — Waypoints/favorites/locations: 5000 — Routes: 200 — Track log: 10,000 points, 200 saved tracks
Memory: 2GB — Waypoints/favorites/locations: 500 — Routes: 20 — Track log: no mention of this.
I guess that answers my question. The Explorer+ is not the all-in-one solution I was hoping for.
Also, no GLONASS, no microSD slot and the same ol’ low resolution display (and outdated UI) is a bummer as well.
I’m disappointed with this new generation. I get that Garmin is trying to sell GPS devices, but for many the main appeal of the InReach is the 2-way satellite messaging. I was really hoping they’d offer this in a smaller/lighter/cheaper unit instead of bundling it with a GPS.
Perhaps the new Explorer makes sense since those buyers wanted a GPS and now it does this better, but for someone happy with a regular SE there’s nothing to get excited about here. Hopefully they’ve got an InReach Nano in the pipeline.
Totally agree with Dan after looking into it.
Everyone is going to take their phone anyway for photos and texting, etc. when in cell range, so this new device does not look that promising, especially for the price.
Having a Gaia Plus account ($5.99/mo), and a Delorme Explorer with a month to month plan may be a little redundant, but I always like a little redundancy in things as important as navigation anyway. The biggest gripe I have with the current explorer is the size/weight.
The cumbersome buttons, and ’90’s bitmap screen’ pretty much make the tethered iPhone a necessity anyway.
For me, a truly revolutionary product would be a smaller, lighter InReach Explorer, with a bigger, better screen, and the same power/functionality as the ResqLink ACR.
Garmin should make a Moto Z phone accessory that adds just satellite texting and SOS.
Thanks for the review Andrew. I sold my Inreach Explorer and will upgrade to the new model. I prefer the new virtual keyboard on the device to send personalized messages rather than pairing it to my iPhone. I like that it has a slightly larger display. My AT thru-hike starts on 3/17. Did they mention when it will be available?
Gary (Roaming Gnome)
The “virtual keyboard” is unchanged from the current inReach units. It’s still that awkward 1980’s video game thing. I would plan on pairing it with your smarthphone still.
Not sure about the ETA on availability. Let me ask. I was under the impression that it would be this spring.
Man that’s disappointing about the keyboard.
From all the pictures published I would say that the new virtual keyboard os a QUERTY keyboard, whereby the old one was a ABCD keyboard. For somebody who knows how to type/chat using (any) QUERTY keyboard, it should be much faster/quicker to use a QUERTY keyboard.
Question for current users: how often do you send custom vs. pre-set message? On trail? In camp? Maybe 90’s keyboard not a big deal for typical use?
I found myself typing messages instead of using the messages I typed in advanced. In my case, I’ll be hiking from anywhere between four and six months. Communicating in areas without cell coverage is important. I have a young daughter who’s going to miss her dad and I know she’ll want to text frequently.
For all you guys say about the 90’s keyboard, one thing is clear: In a rough environment a touch screen (in particular of that small size) would be completely unusable.
So in my view the current user interface with the hardware buttons, status LED, and the optional access via Bluetooth from EarthMate on my smart phone is ideal.
I’ve used the InReach extensively. As a solo adventure motorcyclist it’s a must. Being able to send a text with a map to let family know where I’m at makes for a lot of peace of mind. I think that’s something overlooked in the above discussions. You can map share and there is a map link sent with the text messages. I have used it twice in near emergencies, where the injuries required planning but not evacuations. It’s awesome to be able to have a text conversation in the middle of nowhere. To know that someone is going to be coming to assist, or where the nearest hospital is was huge relief when I was injured and unable to ride. Yes, like any device it’s limited by it’s technology, but I’ve always had a signal, even though in the canyons of the SW where I ride it may take a 10 min. There is no comparison to a Spot, which at this point in tech, is more gimmick than tool. The Earthmate app companion on the IPhone is great. Combined, it’s great to be able to be in very remote areas, and have a text conversation with someone.
On the surface, the improvements look minimal. Maybe there are some upgrades to the internals?
A couple questions for the rep (hopefully not too late):
1. Has anything about the satellite communication technology been updated? Different radios, better signal acquisition?
2. Why, in the age of smartphone displays, does the display on these devices leave so much to be desired? Is it a compromise with durability?
3. As David suggests above, anything that would resemble a mi-fi type device smartphone add-on, or in the pipeline? Any convincing explanations against this idea?
4. How long will the older generation, Inreach for Smartphones (no screen) be supported?
The only reason I spend 7 ounces of my weight budget on the DeLorme explorer is for 1-SOS functionality, and backcountry communication with important people. 2-GPS redundancy if my phone dies while using Gaia.
In my opinion, the GPS on the DeLorme is kind of a joke just because it’s so difficult to view the screen or change vantage points, etc.
I’ve never really picked up one Garmin device I liked to be honest.
If they were smart, they would make a lightweight, tiny accessory to iPhone/android operating systems that simply enabled SOS/Satellite messages.
For 7 ounces, you can take an external charge pack large enough to charge your iPhone 5 or 6 times.
I hear you. I have all you can eat data on my IPhone with Sprint. Unfortunately Sprint is useless on the AT and I don’t want to switch providers.
I’ve been using the the inReach Explorer for backpacking and mountaineering and have been very happy with its reliability and durability and also the service from DeLorme which I would characterise as outstanding. I typically use it in conjunction with a GPS watch (Garmin Fenix 3 HR). The watch is typically set up to give me instant access to altitude, temperature (via external wireless temp sensor), distance traveled and time. The inReach is often in or attached to my pack and relaying tracks as I move, and used for communications as needed (e.g. at basecamp, predefined trip points etc.). I’ve found this combination to be very effective.
I was a little concerned that an inReach device from Garmin might not have the reliability and durability of the DeLorme unit as I’ve had Garmin devices suffer early firmware problems and have never received the kind of phone support I get from DeLorme. However, I expect the software is from DeLorme so perhaps it will work as reliably as the Delorme at least as far as software is concerned. I do note that the Garmin unit is rated IPX7 vs IP67 for the DeLorme, perhaps because the latter has been tested for dust while the Garmin has not? Possible win for the DeLorme unit there.
My hopes for a Garmin variant were a better and larger screen (somewhat achieved) and lower weight (weight has instead gone up ever so slightly). I’ll wait for reviews but for my use I don’t see any reason to “upgrade”. In fact, if I was in the market today I might look for a discounted DeLorme unit.
I’m going to do Spain’s, Camino de Santiago French rout…ie the way, so this inreach explorer sounds good would it be too much to combin it with the Fenix 5s?
?Do I need a paid subscription to use it?
I can’t seem to find the prices on the Internet for an international subscription…
Whether it would be too much honestly depends on how you intend to use the combination. If you just want to be in occasional contact with friends and family, I think you would likely have reasonable cell coverage on the Camino de Santiago so for sending the odd text message you would be fine just with a cell phone (though there will no doubt be a few dead spots).
The inReach comes into its own when you want to continually broadcast your location. In send mode friends can follow your location on a map and you can broadcast messages to your map page (or social media). You can also individually email or text people (send and receive). When emailing people a link to a map showing your location is also provided to the recipients. All these services do require a subscription (someone has to pay the Iridium folk for satellite data usage). Plans are available in many countries but the service is of course global. I.e. regardless of who collects your money all services are available anywhere on the globe.
Some links for international subscriptions can be found here: https://explore.garmin.com/en-US/inreach/#subscriptions
Now, your Garmin 5s should also allow you to share your location on the go provided you have it paired with a smartphone (it uses (or will use!) Bluetooth). However, if you want continual broadcast that will be using up a fair bit of your phone and watch battery power. The inReach will broadcast for many days so you likely wouldn’t need to worry about power. Plus, if the inReach dies you still have your phone which should work in most instances.
As I mentioned, I use a Fenix 3 HR myself and I think it is a great watch for anyone on the go, so if you are going to wear a watch I think the 5s will be a great option since it will give you distance travelled, HR etc. My guess is that you likely won’t miss the inReach unless you are super keen to be always broadcasting location to friends and family.
Always being in contact and having the SOS function is a nice to have but I don’t think this is too important if you are in areas with decent cell coverage. Having said that I have used to inReach when travelling internationally to save on roaming charges (I occasionally use it to send text messages and emails while avoiding the local networks). That is something to think about but is not a very common use case.
One last thought – though I find the inReach a great tool for staying safe in remote locations, one reason I enjoy the mountains is to get away from it all. So while my inReach may be active it tends to stay in my backpack most of the day. I believe Walter Starkie might have recommended you leave the cell phone at home too based on what I recall of his “Road to Santiago”. Definitely a man ahead of his time!
Enjoy your trip! 🙂
I am considering the SE+ or Explorer+ for use on my sailboat. I already have GPS, AIS, VHF, EPIRB, MMSI number.
What I need is a way to send texts when I do not have cell phone reception.
I like the idea of the tracker, SOS
Also I need marine weather data
What model would be best for my needs? I will be bringing my Ipad and Iphone. Cruising for 6 months in British Columbia
If you do not plan to use the inReach for navigational purposes (which I’m doubtful you will, since you say you already have GPS and personally I would much rather use an iPad with a GPS app than the inReach), then you should hunt down a current inReach SE. It’s all that you need, and it will cost less than the inReach+ devices when they become available.
On Amazon the SE is selling for almost $60 less than the $300 retail. REI is still selling it at full retail, $300.
My only reservation in suggesting an SE is that I have not received official confirmation that Garmin will continue to service these older Delorme devices, i.e. offer satellite subscriptions, repair them, and warranty them. I can’t imagine that they will not, but I would feel better once I hear something definitive from Garmin.
Andrew – did you find out from Garmin whether they definitely will be honoring the warranty on the DeLorme inReach? I would like to buy a brand-new inReach SE from an established Garmin dealer, but the dealer is dodging the question whether the unit comes with the full manufacturer’s warranty. Thanks for the great gear info you supply!
That was answered here, https://andrewskurka.com/2017/garmin-inreach-se-explorer-faqs/. Garmin’s answer:
We have no plans to end subscription support for previous inReach products. All of our hardware devices come with documented warranty claims so I would defer to those for how long they will be honored. No changes there either though.
I’ll have to check on repairs, I think some of that might be driven by availability of parts.
Have you heard anymore about Garmin’s plan to continue to offer satellite services for the delorme inreach models? I want to buy one just for taking on solo runs in the mountains and don’t necessarily need the mapping just the communication ability in case of emergency.
That was addressed here, https://andrewskurka.com/2017/garmin-inreach-se-explorer-faqs/. The short answer is, Yes, they will continue to service DeLorme models.
If it is just for use on your sailboat I agree with Andrew.
I don’t sail but have used the inReach for kayaking (they sell a lightweight neoprene floatation “case”) typically just strapped to the top of the kayak. In addition to the two way messaging, having friends be able to track your location can also be useful in the event something happens and you are unable to send a distress signal (e.g. fall climbing, capsize etc.) since your last location or possibly your current location will be available.
The main reason for purchasing the Explorer version would be to have an all-in one GPS navigation backup. I primarily rely on paper maps for navigation but still like having more than one device capable of providing current location or recording a track. I’ve had my Garmin run out of power and failed to activate my inReach track mode (2 AM, freezing hands, gloves, blowing snow – otherwise known as user error) so I was glad to have both devices.
In terms of weather, I have used the weather service on my Explorer. I use it as background information and then use a barometer for local conditions. I actually quite like the Fenix 3’s weather alerts which have actually shook my rest a few times while I was resting at camp!
The inReach devices does apparently support maritime weather though I have never used the maritime forecasts:
Incidentally, my kayaking was in British Columbia – both Tofino (nice surf!) and on the Sunshine Coast (scenic and sheltered waters). If you do get to BC be sure to make a stop in Gibsons, BC. Lovely town!
I’ve been hoping Garmin would upgrade the deLorme units with a more user-friendly keyboard (“qwerty” format, like smartphones and two-way pagers have had since 1990’s). But my real problem is with the entire product concept. Specifically, the reliance on only a proprietary, private, for-profit, pay-for-SOS xmit/receive emergency notification center. The better product us here, but so far only for govt/military customers: https://www.acrartex.com/products/catalog/personal-locator-beacons/sarlink/#sthash.lSTTJLwa.Zc8oGxYd.dpbs The SE and Explorer have their place, but the ACR SARlink design is far superior and will eventually hit the consumer market. I will pass on the Garmin “+” units, get an SE, until a consumer ACR is available.
Cool device. Wonder what else they have going in their skunk worx program.
FWIW, the SARLink uses Iridium satellites for its two-way messaging feature. So does the inReach.
Also, 12.5 oz is not very good. The inReach are heavy, and they are 7.5.
I may have missed it in the responses above, but do either of the new devices have GLONASS?
The online materials do not indicate any GLONASS compatibility. If they were, Garmin would probably say so, since they make a point to do this with devices that do, like the GPSMAP 64 and the Fenix 5 watches.
The second-generation devices did not.
Thank you. Some of our forestry crews are using older 60-series units for mapping and field data collection and carrying SPOT devices. I was hoping this inReach upgrade would provide better communication as well as improved under-canopy GPS accuracy with only one device to manage.
I was wondering if you would be able to sell this after using it. I would hate to pay this kind of money and be stuck with it as I usually upgrade my devices frequently.
Yes, you can sell it. It can be factory-reset, and there is a used market for it.
Great. Also I wonder if the battery is replaceable. It’s definitely great that it lasts longer than regular batteries but I can see the battery life longevity going down after a few years.
The battery is not replaceable, at least by the customer. Long-term users of the second-generation inReach complained of battery drain, like a cell phone. But the inReach+ units may use a different battery, from the GPSMAP 64, so the experience may be different.
Hey Andrew! We are going to be doing the Brooks Range Traverse this summer – do you think this device would be a good option for us? Right now I use a YellowBrick (www.ybtracking.com) for communication, and also carry a GPS. I’ve been happy with the YellowBrick in the Brooks, but it seems like the Garmin would have more communication abilities than the YellowBrick for coordinating with pilots, etc…, and cut the weight of my system, right? I’m mostly concerned about the durability/functionality of the Garmin since there aren’t many reviews yet. What are your thoughts?
If you currently carry a YellowBrick (BTW, hadn’t heard of these before, thanks for the link) and a handheld GPS unit, then, yes, a Garmin inReach+ or the older DeLorme inReach Explorer would be a lighter and less expensive system. Because the inReach+ and inReach Explorer is a combined two-way text messenger AND a GPS.
Yellowbrick says that it allows for two-way text messaging, using the device or (with the Standard or Pro models) by pairing it with a smartphone via their app. But I’m not certain how functional it is relative to the inReach, in terms of character counts. With the inReach, you’re about limited to a Twitter message.
There are no reviews yet on the inReach+ because they are not yet available. I’m trying to get one early. I would suspect that the hardware and software are pretty good — I was pleased with the DeLorme inReach, and Garmin dropped it into the body of their time-tested 64 GPS.
Thanks for the info! Looking forward to your review when you get a unit. The YellowBrick sends very short messages (from the unit). I’ve never tried it paired with a phone – the YellowBrick’s battery works exceptionally well in cold weather and is virtually indestructible, so I just use it without a phone.
Hi! I’m looking for a satellite texting device such as the inReach +, but I also want to have access to use the Onxmaps Hunt Chip. Can this device use both, or any word if Garmin is coming out with something that will?
Neither the SE+ nor the Explorer+ have micro-SD slots, so a Hunt Chip cannot be inserted into them.
Also, the devices are not yet compatible with Garmin Base Camp, so you cannot load the data onto the device from there either. This could be fixed with a software update, but no word from Garmin yet on it.
The biggest problem with the previous generation of these devices is they can’t receive texts unless the user sends out a text first. For example, let’s say I’m hiking off grid and my wife wants to reach me. She can’t just send a text to the device from her phone because the device doesn’t have a dedicated phone number. I have to text her first, and then she can reply to my text. The number that appears on her phone from the device might be 123.456.7890. But if I text my coworker from the device he number he sees might be 234.567.8901. And so on. These devices pull from a pool of numbers and there’s no way to guarantee what the “sent from” number will be. I had hoped to use one of these in conjunction with Google Voice so clients could just text me as usual and I would receive the message on the device. Can’t do it. Still a cool device but not as cool as it could be.
I wonder if the new version suffers from the same problem or if Garmin will finally just assign a dedicated number to each device. That would be magical for my needs.
I’m not a fan of the huge new versions. There’s no way I would upgrade to one of those behemoths. What lumbering monsters. I was hoping they would get smaller. The best way to use these devices is paired with your smart phone. I think of it as an external satellite radio for my phones. I’ve never used the GPS function even one time on the devices. I just need something to keep me connected to the outside world. Overall, it works pretty well.
Global FastTrack Systems seems to offer dedicated and permanent email addresses for the inreach devices.
This company is one (of several) Iridium value-added service (VAS) providers and they offer alternative data plans for the inreach devices. So after buying the inreach device, instead of registering it through Garmin using Garmin’s data plans, you register it though Global FastTrack, using one of their “ProteGear”-branded data plans.
The dedicated, permanent email address is a feature called GlobalMail. It is an option available with Global Fast Track Systems’ ProteGear data plans for inreach devices.
In this respect, as well as in many other aspects, the data plans other VAS offer may be more flexible than what Garmin itself offers.
Tim – did you activate your inReach with ProteGear rather than with Garmin? I have an unactivated DeLorme InReach SE, and I would be very interested in seeing any comparisons you might have done regarding the average annual cost of activating with Garmin versus ProteGear. Having one permanent email address for the device sounds very useful! Thanks.
Hi Craig, yes I activated my inReach with ProteGear. There is an annual base price of EUR 79.00 incl VAT.
And then you pay per use (day, week, or month). Price differs by tracking interval (1 min, 2 min, or 10 min). I for example have chosen a package where I pay EUR 6.90 per day of use, with 2 min tracking interval. (A “day” is defined by Iridium as a UTC calendar day.)
Within the use period, you have unlimited tracking, messaging and “deadman alerts” (alert recipients receive SMS and/or email if I am not moving, or no signals have been received for a defined period).
Of course there are also annual contracts where you cannot suspend your device when not in use.
Tim – I contacted ProteGear and unless I’m seeing something incorrectly, their Extreme monthly plan (similar to Garmin’s Freedom Expedition plan) is quite a bit more expensive. I would have liked to have the fixed email addresses for the InReach that ProteGear provides at no additional charge, but I’m very price-conscious at the same time.
FWIW, I’ve calculated an $18.33 average monthly service cost (sans tax) of Garmin’s Freedom Expedition Plan, when utilized just 3 months per year. The comparable Monthly Extreme Plan that’s offered by ProteGear would cost an average of $35.31 per month at current exchange rates.
The two provider’s plans aren’t identical, as ProteGear’s plan includes 5 minute tracking (vs 10 minute for Garmin). Plus the ProteGear plan includes several unique and fixed email addresses for the inReach, something not offered at all by Garmin.
I’d like to verify that I’m looking at the problem correctly. Did you calculate that ProtoGear’s plans cost quite a bit more than the similar Garmin plans? If you don’t mind, let me know if you basically agree with my conclusion. Thanks!
Hi Craig, Garmin doesn’t offer fixed email addresses, nor do they offer ‘deadman alerts’. There are dedicated aviation tracking systems (V2 or Spidertracks, both also Iridium based, and both not portable, need ship power) who offer ‘no motion/ no signal’ alerts, but at a much higher cost than inReach.
Garmin offers 2 min interval tracking only with its most expensive “Extreme” contract (USD 99.95 per month, or USD 960 per year, sans tax). For any cheaper option, you have to settle for 10 min tracking interval.
ProteGear offers 1 min, 2 min, 5 min, or 10 min tracking intervals. The annual base fee is EUR 65 excl tax. Plus you pay your daily, weekly, monthly, or annual use rates. Fixed email address and deadman alert (called “Smart Safety”) is included.
The weekly fee for example for unlimited 2 min interval tracking, and unlimited messages is EUR 15.99 excl tax. My plan is for a daily fee of EUR 5.80 excl tax.
As a seasonal, holiday, or weekend user, this gives me tremendous flexibility and cost control.
If you give your wife the link and password to your Mapshare page she, or anyone with access can send you a message without you first sending her a message.
Once anyone is on your mapshare page they click on the Message icon and compose and send a massage to you without you first sending a message to them.
Without the link and password to your mapshare page you will have to send a message to them first in order them to send you a message.
Thank-you for your review.
I have one important question: Garmin support states that the Explorer + will not function at all without a subscription service including the GPS? So, basically it is a brick, without a service plan.
Can you clear this up? In your review, you stated the one advantage to the Explorer + was that the GPS worked, without a subscription….
Where are you seeing that?
That was the case with the second-generation DeLorme Explorer. If your service was not active, it didn’t work.
But I was told by Garmin that the GPS on the SE+ and Explorer+ would remain functional even if your subscription is not active. (You will still need to activate the device.)
I’ll check on this just to confirm.
More info from Garmin:
“We are working on an update that will allow users to activate their inReach and then put it into a suspended state which will not require an Iridium data plan. The inReach owner will be able to use the device as a handheld GPS, pair with the Earthmate app, and sync with the Explore site. This plan came along late in the development process so it won’t be available for a couple of weeks. Sales people knew about the plan so they shared that at Outdoor Retailer. Customer Care knows that the devices currently require a subscription so they are sharing that. We’re working on the update as we speak and hope to have it out soon.”
I have asked if the update will be for the old Explorer too, or just the + devices. Should have an answer shortly.
That’s great news! I really appreciate you digging into this, as the explorer+ will be a replacement for my worn and tired Garmin 450T. And the bonus of a freedom plan when I’m off trail l to keep my wife sane! This is definitely a buy for me, not having to pay for the GPS functionality throughout the year.
Awaiting your next update.
“[The update] will only be available with the inReach SE+ and Explorer+ versions. We are concerned about users forgetting they aren’t activated and heading out into the wilderness so we’ve made improvements to the inReach+ UI to make it clear that the device isn’t active and no Iridium messages will be sent or received.”
Thank-you once again for the diligence in getting the “true updates” for the unit. I just pre-ordered the Explorer+. This will be a great addition to my pack for lengthy back-country excursions.
If I’m just wanting one for text and SOS is there any reason I would care if the SE was usable while it’s not activated? I.e. Is there a reason to get the SE+ over the SE?
For texting and SOS, the SE is the simplest and least expensive inReach.
Thanks for your comparison! I have the Inreach Explorer still in the box, waiting to be used in my trip this August. I assumed that the GPS functionality is built into the device like all GPS devices are and that we require the subscription only for Sat Comm to send and receive text messages.
Do I have to get the Inreach Explorer+ for this functionality? I ride motorcycles in remote places and I plan to just use my phone for maps and the Inreach for SOS, Text messages and GPS accuracy.
Correct. The DeLorme Explorer requires an active subscription to be used as a GPS. Per Garmin, the SE+ and Explorer+ will have a software update soon whereby they can be used as a GPS even without an active subscription. (The device still must be activated, however.)
I called Garmin yesterday and their support guy said the device will always need an active subscription to work as a GPS because it uses the Iridium network only – not the Dept. of Defence free GPS satellites. That for me is a deal breaker as it turns the device into a paperweight unless you pay the subscription each month. I really hope that you are correct and the support guy was wrong but I’m not buying until I see it confirmed.
I trust my Garmin contact because he is the lead engineer. But I think the timing of this software update might be slower than they hope or plan.
That’s awesome news Andrew. If I can use this device as a GPS without the monthly or yearly subscription but enable and pay for the InReach capabilities as and when I need it, I’ll buy it without hesitation.
Andrew, the manual for the InReach Explorer + says “Before you can USE your InReach device, you must activate it, ‘ and goes on that you MUST create an account and select a SATELLITE subscription. I have also seen at least one other forum who got a letter from Garmin stating this as well. So, how can I be sure if I buy this, that it’s going to work per your “in” with the lead engineer? I would like the capability of the communication features but would use them rarely, but mainly am looking for GPS features as my old GPS died. I don’t want to carry multiple electronics hiking. Thanks!
I don’t own a Explorer+ so I can’t validate this first-hand, but I’m pretty sure that Garmin updated the software a while back to allow GPS functionality even when the inReach service is not active. Maybe someone else can chime in here.
You definitely will need to create an inReach account and to pay the $25 annual hold fee, even if you don’t want to use the communication.
Darren, of course the inreach uses the GPS satellites to give you a position fix. And then separately the Iridium satellites for communication. The Iridium network on its own doesn’t allow the device to determine its coordinates.
The restriction to not give you use of the GPS functionality of the device (unless you an *active*, or later maybe at least a *suspended* Iridium data plan) I reckon purely is a commercial restriction.
I have the InReach Explorer+ and can confirm that the GPS works without a paid subscription plan. I used the GPS before signing up for a plan to take it for a ride.
Is there any real difference in the screen readability from the old ones from Delorme to the new ones from Garmin…? I have heard that the old ones easily activate the sos. Is the set up better on the new ones or should I get the discounted old Delorme unit new.
The scree on the inReach+ units is bigger, but resolution is about the same, and the U/I is identical.
I have not heard of any/many stories of people accidentally setting off the SOS on the old units. You have to release a physical locking button before the SOS can be pressed. Hard to imagine how that button could slide while in a pack.
OK thanks. I’m torn between getting the SE+ (new yellow one ) or the old orange explorer. The new Garmin is 399 and old Delorme orange for 303….
I have a Garmin Montana 650T & love the size, legibility, and touch screen. The ability to import GPX files & micro sd slot for 24K topo are imparative to me while hiking. The detail is incredible! I also have the DeLorme Explorer for two way communication as I usually hike alone, that and SOS capability are also invaluable to me. I want to see these features all in one unit and the ounces be damed! Any chance of getting this all in one? Also the Montana has incredible battery life and uses a rechargeable batty pack or AA’s. On a 10 day trip I simply take a second lithium ion battery for the Montana.
The new Explorer+ essentially combines your current Montana and current Explorer. There are some differences in the single unit versus the two separate units, but I don’t think any of them are deal-breakers.
To start, the Explorer+ does everything that your current Explorer does, e.g. two-way text messaging.
The Explorer+ is not as good of a substitute for the Montana, but again I think you’ll find it sufficient. You’ll have to give up the 4-inch touchscreen. You no longer will have the micro SD slot; but the TOPO NA data is pre-loaded onto the Explorer+, and you can download many more data sets to the Earthmate app (on your phone, which connects to the inReach via Bluetooth). You’ll have to transfer data using the Explore portal rather than Basecamp or whatever you were using for the Montana. Lastly, the Explorer+ has a non-replaceable lithium battery. Lifespan is very good, and you can recharge it in the field using an Anker Powercore Mini or similar with a micro USB cord.
I have three questions I was hoping you have an answer to:
1. Does it support MGRS for location/coordinates?
2. Confirm it loses waypoints when it is turned off = cannot plan / track a trip without a computer.
3. Where can I find out what topo maps are available?
2. The user can play waypoints and routes beforehand in the Explore portal. In the field, the user can create new waypoints via the shortcut menu or the New Waypoint tool from the Waypoints page.
These waypoints are not lost when the device is turned off. In fact, the waypoints are sent via Iridium to the Explore web portal while the user is still in the field so that friends and family, or possibly the office if you’re working with the inReach, can see where you have created new waypoints and how those points are related to the rest of your trip. Imagine a hike where you change your plans in the field and want to create a new waypoint for where you will camp or just mark something that was interesting. Now you’re friends will see “Shelter” or “Waterfall” or “Bridge Out” waypoints on your MapShare to tell the story of your adventure. Waypoints are also synced from the inReach to the Explore site during a cable sync, they are definitely not lost.
3. Here is the list:
DeLorme Topo North America (inReach & Earthmate)
OpenStreetMaps for the world (inReach & Earthmate)
DeLorme Digital Atlas of the Earth (inReach & Earthmate)
Hunting GMUs, Parcels, Public Lands (inReach & Earthmate)
NOAA Nautical Charts (Earthmate only)
Aerial Imagery (Earthmate only)
USGS/Canadian Quads (Earthmate only)
Garmin sent screenshots of each of those map layers, if you wanted to see what they look like. Let me know.
The element that seems to beshort shrift is the conversation about what model to get is the barometric altimeter. This can be a key piece of data for navigation, weather forecasting, etc.
If you are using a phone for your primary GPS functions, it seems like the InReach still has a lot of value as a communication tool, altimeter, remote tracker, and a more durable, longer battery life backup GPS.
That being said, I haven’t actually used it yet. But then again I am coming from a 401 which is very basic (and small, and light, and convenient.)
I am a little confused. I went ahead and got the explorer plus. So I sent some preset messages and included my cell. So my cell got the text message. Is that number that it’s displaying my device contact number? Can the person reply to the text to answer or do they have to go to the website ?
Both….The only caveat, is you must text them first on a cell phone.
As mentioned in another replay somewhere above, Global FastTrack Systems (https://www.protegear.de/english/protegear-globalmail/) offer dedicated, permanent email addresses for the inreach devices.
This would allow another person to initiate the contact, without the need for the inreach user to first text them.
I got my Explorer+ the other day also. Advertised batt seems about right. Allow so time for setup & do the web site sync right away, cuz there is already an update in the can,
Will this unit track other users on the screen? I’m needing something that will track multiple users for snowbiking in the backcountry as it’s easy to get separated in the trees.
No, the inReach device does not have that capability. I don’t know of a satellite device that does. If you are within cell phone range, you can use a Find My Friends-type app.
As Andrew says, not a satellite device, but the Garmin Rino units have an FRS radio built into them with position sharing functionality: “Rino series handhelds feature a unique Position Reporting capability that lets you send your exact location to other Rino users so they can see it on their map page. Plus, improved audio performance means it’s easy to communicate with any other conventional FRS/GMRS radios in the area.”
They are pricey ($550-650), they use rechargeable AAs with battery life “up to 14 hours,” weigh almost 13 oz, and are about 1.5 inches longer. They do not have satellite SOS capability.
Can two hikers with any of the inreach models communicate directly with each other using the satellite messaging? And therefore send their locations (lat,long) back and forth?
Yes, you can. Directions, http://support.inreachcanada.com/kb/articles/sending-messages-between-inreach-devices-inreach-to-inreach-messaging
In addition to the battery life question above, I had a few other questions for Garmin and they have responded very promptly:
Q: Do Earthmate, Explore, and the units all support the use of UTM, MGRS, USNG coordinates and multiple datums?
A: The inReach devices, Earthmate app, and Explor web portal all support those and multiple datums.
Q: Does the SOS function broadcast in UTM if that is what you have selected? What about the autotext that includes your location when you send a message? I am thinking to clarify communication with rescuers.
A: When you broadcast SOS, it does not matter which datum you have selected as your exact coordinates will be reported to emergency services and displayed in their chosen coordinate system. Your coordinates are also continuously updated as the SOS is broadcast, so you can be found even if you are moving. If you are communicating with emergency services and need to provide or receive information in UTM format, this is not an issue.
Q: Can you import/export gpx files directly into/out of the units? Or do you have to go through the Explore interface like I do with Basecamp with my Foretrex 401?
A: GPX and KML files can only be made up of tracks/routes and/or waypoints, and must be imported via the Explore web interface and then synced to the unit and/or Earthmate app. There is no direct import of the file(s) to the unit without using the portal.
Note: There is a misuse of datum in their reply about the SOS signal, but I don’t think that actually changes the answer. I have asked for clarification and will update if it changes anything.
Via Garmin: “The coordinates sent via SOS will be accurate to GEOS (the SOS provider) regardless of which coordinate system you have the unit set to (you will not need to inform them which system you are using upon initiating SOS).”
REI currently has a clearance sale on. I just scored an InReach Explorer for $228 plus tax.
To clarify, that is probably the DeLorme unit, not the new units from Garmin reviewed here? They are listed at $303.93 on the REI web site as of this writing.
Yes, the $228 was for the Explorer, as opposed to the new Explorer+. But at the price, and given Andrew’s comparison of the Delorme versus the Garmin, it was (for me) too good a discount to pass up.
I am tempted, too. Amazon has them super-cheap, too.
Just not sure I am willing to pull the trigger on a unit with an uncertain support future. Also the ability on the new units to use the GPS w/out a subscription adds flexibility. But it is still really tempting.
I looked at both. I decided to splurge for a couple reasons.
1. The explorer does not have to have the subscription to operate as a GPS. Monthly fees of the old Delorme explorer will add up quick and a subscription is always required for it to function.
2. On going support and updates for the Garmin version, whereas I would guess the support and firmware updates for the Delorme units will stall. Purely speculation here.
My 2 cents ..
Andrew, I admit, that I have not read all the comments on the Garmin inreach Explorer+. I just bought one and am disappointed to find out that you must have an inreach subscription to use the GPS alone. I only need the satellite communications for about 1 month a year, but losing the ability to use the GPS when the subscription lapses is really a flaw in this unit.
That situation is going to change. You’re always going to need to activate the inReach+ units in order to use them solely as GPS, but after activation (and paying the annual fee) you will be able to suspend your subscription and use it only as a GPS. Here are excerpts from my correspondences with Garmin:
The navigation features in the inReach Explorer+ and SE+ will continue to work even if you suspend your subscription. Users will still need to set up their account in order to gain access to the Explore web portal, activate their inReach, and use the Earthmate mobile app. Once they do this they will be free to suspend their subscription and continue to use the device as a handheld GPS. Obviously I’m going to try very hard to entice customers to keep their plan active with exciting Iridium messaging, tracking, and safety features, but the option will be there.
I’d say both Garmin sources were correct. We are working on an update that will allow users to activate their inReach and then put it into a suspended state which will not require an Iridium data plan. The inReach owner will be able to use the device as a handheld GPS, pair with the Earthmate app, and sync with the Explore site. This plan came along late in the development process so it won’t be available for a couple of weeks. Sales people knew about the plan so they shared that at Outdoor Retailer. Customer Care knows that the devices currently require a subscription so they are sharing that. Again, sorry for the headache this caused. We’re working on the update as we speak and hope to have it out soon.
I think this has indeed changed by now. Since the last firmware update from 28 April 2017 I can use my inReach SE+ in GPS log mode even without an active satellite subscription. Of course it won’t send any satellite messages or position updates via satellite, but the GPS log (log interval up to 1 sec) can be displayed on the Earthmate App while on the trail, and can be uploaded to the public map site on MapShare once Earthmate has an Internet connection.
That is typically, at the end of the trip when connected again to a WiFi network. However, provided there is data cell coverage, and you have allowed Earthmate to use mobile data, Earthmate would automatically try sync with Garmin MapShare every 10 min.
Thanks for that update Tim. That’s the update I’ve been waiting for. I’m going to head to REI tomorrow and pick up one of these units now that my requirements have been met.
Echoing Garmin info above….
We have not been informed if the units will ever have the WAAS capabilities but you can still expect the same gps accuracy as our other GPS devices.
We are expecting to have this update to allow GPS use without an active subscription but no extra details or ETA have been given.
Thank you for choosing Garmin,
Product Support Team
I bought the Explorer + hoping to consolidate gps and satellite tracking for bikepacking races. (currently using a Garmin Etrex 30 and a Spot tracker). The main obstacle to this is the 500 track point limit for routes in the Explorer (the Etrex 30 limit is 10,000). Does anyone know if this is an issue that could be addressed in a firmware update?
I bought this device two months ago. I have the annual safety contract. For NY residents this comes out to $13.65 a month if you don’t use it (There was an initial one time subscription fee of $19.95 plus taxes). I wish they would have a set price because no one knows what the taxes amount will be for their state.
I’ve had an inReach Explorer for just over one year. I’ve used it in the backcountry 6 times now each time for 3-5 days. Mostly for alpine climbing in the Canadian Rockies. I have three main complaints about the unit:
1) The screen is not bright enough for use in full sunlight. In full sunlight on a glacier it is impossible to read the display.
2) The battery should be removable so that you can bring 2 or 3 batteries along on a long trip off the grid. Why not use batteries like they use on the point and shoot cameras.
3) On my most recent trip about 2 weeks ago the up arrow cursor key stopped working. As luck would have it the warranty had expired 1 week earlier.
My Garmin inReach is brand new, and I also agree that the keyboard, in prticluar the arrow key (the rocker switch I mean) doesn’t fell as if it would last forever.
That’s a good reason to use a bluetooth connect phone & the Earthmate app for you typing, faster & less frustrating also.
InReach users often complain that third parties can’t send them messages, unless the inReach user has initiated the conversation by sending a sat message first.
However, there are providers that offer dedicated, permanent email addresses for inReach devices. I have made good experiences with such a service. Third parties can now send email to my inReach device without going to some portal, and without necessarily having received a message from me first.
The email address is permanent. That means it will not change when I use the inReach for another trip next year and even if my sat subscription was suspended in the interim.
I can set various filters (like white list or black list of senders) and automatically reduces incoming emails to the essential text (stripping email signatures and other incidental text).
I have two email addresses for my device, with different filter settings. I plan on using one email address that passes on unabridged, full (text) content, even if it splits it over several satellite messages (the 160-character message length per message restriction still applies). Here I will allow access only to a white list of senders. And another, open email address, but this one will cut-off incoming mails after 160 characters.
I’ve had my new Explorer+ for about a month now and have been taking it on my daily 4-5 mile dog walk while wearing my pack with the Explorer+ clipped to a ring on my ULA Circuit shoulder strap. I’ve been putting the lower water bottle holder loop around it in an attempt to keep it from flopping all over the place as I walk. I’ve now decided to ditch the clunky back clip and carabiner in favor of a velcro strap snugged below the SOS button so it can’t slip off. This keeps the unit tight to the strap and saves 26 grams FWIW. Anyone else ditch the carabiner for a DIY solution?
On the bright side, the unit works very well on my local walks. I’m heading down to Yosemite for a few valley hikes in 10 days, and I’ll be testing messaging, navigating, etc. I create my maps in CalTopo, export a gpx file, and import it into my Garmin account on line. Other than my labels being truncated, this works well.
Same here. I am now using Garmin’s “Backpack Tether” instead. Essentially this is a velcro pad which attaches to a rucksack shoulder strap by 2 velco straps and is connected by cord to a velcro pad on a Garmin mount (google it, as I believe Andreas doesn’t allow here anything that remotely looks like an URL…)
The good thing is that you can take off the inReach (to view the screen, etc.) while it is still attached by a cord, so the device can’t get lost accidentally.
As a matter of fact, I am not using it on a shoulder strap, but strapped to my thigh, while sitting down. That way the screen is facing me, and I am alerted of incoming messages (green LED) or reception problems (red LED), which both is critical to me.
Just a quick question as a potential buyer: How useful is the mapping component on the Explorer+? I am not sure if I would be using it very often but if it is actually useful and you constantly use it I would like to know. Thank you!
It usefulness depends on the user and where you are.
Personally, I don’t think it’s very useful, because I prefer paper maps as my primary nav tool. I only consult a GPS if I need pinpoint precision, which is rarely the case.
But less proficient navigators will consult a GPS more often. And some backpackers navigate entirely off a GPS, which is fine but not my preference. In those cases, the 100k maps on the Explorer+ would most definitely be useful.
And on the other extreme, those who heavily rely on electronic charts (like pilots) have and need separate, sophisticated navigation software. The Explorer map won’t do. So yes, the base SE+ product is just fine.
Other than USB connection or paying horrendously for their dedicated charger, can a person use their phone charger to charge the inreach? Not very long ago, when you bought a battery operated piece of electronics, they sent you a charger. How times have changed. Bugs me that they charge so much for something that costs less than three to five dollars to mass produce. Thank you for your time.
Who would want to use 10 different chargers when you can replace them all with an Anker PowerPort 10 60W desktop charger for $39? I have used all 10 ports simultaneously to charge everything from an inReach Explorer, tablet, phones, GPS, flashlights, headlamps, iPod, and watch. Works great and doesn’t begin to get warm even when all 10 ports are used.
The Anker PowerPort 10 also comes in handy at airports, motel rooms, and anyplace plug space is at a premium. Like all Anker products it gets the job done and is built to last.
I would think you can use any normal USB wall charger to charge the inReach. You can also use any other standard USB-to-USB mini cable to connect the inReach to a laptop or wall charger with a USB output.
I have certainly successfully charged my inReach with any number of different USB-to-USB mini cables, and using any number of USB wall chargers that I have lying around at home
Just remember that the InReach has a USB 2.0 B-type connector (only fits one way), whereas newer smartphones have a USB 3.0+ C-type connector (reversible, enables fast charging), so you’ll need both cables if you have a newer smartphone.
I rented one of these for an 8 day trip in Washington this summer, and am bringing an Anker PowerCore 10000 with me to recharge the Garmin inReach Explorer+ and my Samsung Galaxy S6 (in airplane mode, for photos). I couldn’t find the battery size for the inReach. Will the Anker recharge the inReach and my phone at least once each before having to recharge the battery pack? Thanks for your help!
The Explorer+ has a battery capacity of 2,450 mAh
Did anybody had issue with messages not being delivered? I am sending messages in Europe to T-Mobile network and they are not going thru. I am on Garmin subscription and was planning to change on Protegear. Not sure if it will make any change. I would appreciate any info…
Hi Croat, I presume you mean messages sent from the device to a mobile telephone number (i.e., delivered as SMS)?
To my my understanding that is a service that Garmin needs to manage with its gateway partners. Specific set-up is required per country, and per mobile network that the SMS recipient is based in. Garmin must have a myriad of agreements in place to manage this service globally, for most countries, and most networks.
For major networks and major countries (like T-Mobile in Europe) this shouldn’t be an issue, as there are so many users. But for SMS recipients in third-world countries and/or on a ‘minor’ mobile network, it could well be that they (the SMS recipient) is the first to notice that lack of such gateway.
If the SMS recipient is roaming, reliability of an otherwise working SMS delivery in their base country, may be affected too.
This principal situation (that the SMS gateways are under the responsibility of Garmin) doesn’t change if you were to sign up with ProteGear (I am a ProteGear user, and have seen that with ProteGear it works the same).
I haven’t had problems with delivery of messages from device to SMS. I had however problems with one particular SMS recipient not being able to effectively respond to the SMS received, back to my device. This should work, and does work with most mobile networks, but yes, there was one ‘minor’ network where the return SMS to device didn’t go through.
The good thing about ProteGear is that their support is always available, and immediately responds to any problems reported. From the described SMS-response issue, I know that ProteGear immediately got onto their direct contacts within Garmin to report and resolve this problem. I am not sure of individual Garmin clients get the same response and support when contacting Garmin.
The Inreach Explorer + has a lot of great features except a very important one which Garmin calls “traceback”. When hiking in unfamiliar territory it is essential to have the ability to follow your track back to the start. I am disappointed with my purchase for that reason.
The Inreach Explorer + has a lot of great features except a very important one which Garmin calls “tracback”. When hiking in unfamiliar territory it is essential to have the ability to follow your track back to the start. I am disappointed with my purchase for that reason.
I have an Inreach Explorer+ device. I recently bought a Garmin Drive 51 LMT-S.
HOW CAN I transfer my inreach routes and waypoints to the new Garmin, if at all please?
If the devices are compatible, I’d guess through a Garmin application (e.g., Bascamp). Look in the manuals for importing and exporting.
Hi Andrew, Just hiked the Brooks Range with a SPOT and a sat phone. My SPOT fizzled out when I got it wet crossing a river, even though it’s supposed to be waterproof to 3 feet for 1/2 hour. Apparently water can get in through the USB port, as others have complained. What are your thoughts on the Garmin InReach’s water proofing. My Garmin Montana fell off my pocket while getting of the float plane and survived the immersion without problems.
Thank you, George
No clue. The only confidence I have is that it’s rated per the ISO standard.
ISO? Or IP (International Protection Marking, IEC standard 60529, sometimes interpreted as Ingress Protection Marking, classifies and rates the degree of protection provided against intrusion (body parts such as hands and fingers), dust, accidental contact, and water by mechanical casings and electrical enclosures)
Andrew im looking for an inexpensive way to communicate my location to my wife while offshore fishing is the delorme SE model still supported by garmin where i can text back and forth with my wife on long offshore trips. she doesnt like for me to be gone long with 3 young kids at home.
im on a budget so if i dont have to buy the $400 garmins i dont want to
I know of no other or no less expensive option for texting when you’re beyond cell range.
The old Delorme model is still sold. Check protegear.de/english/buy-inreach-se/ It is about two hundred and forty euros plus sales tax.
used my garmin se this weekend to communicate our status and location with the wifes while were were 110+ miles offshore for 3 days this weekend worked perfect and there was way less complaining when we returned since the girls knew we were ok for the whole trip. thanks
Yes, I think so. Please remember that this technically is a service provided by Iridium, and Garmin is only one service provider amongst many (OK, let’s say “few”). You can also speak to other Iridium service providers, who even might offer you more flexible subscription contracts.
One of the, Protegear, I know for sure still supports the Delorme devices. They even still sell the Delorme InReach SE. Check it out! (protegear.de/english/buy-inreach-se/)
Cabela’s also has them in stock and on sale for a decent price.
Intending to use inreach explorer for adventure kayaking covering large distances. Is there a waterproof Garmin watch that can sync with the inreach while it is tucked away in the life vest?
I believe it can only be paired with a phone, not a watch. Also, even though it’s a Garmin product, much of the R&D for this particular generation was done by Delorme, which was acquired by Garmin shortly before this product was released.
Andrew, your captcha spam protection is one of the most uset-unfriendly and idiosyncratic systems I have come across. You may want to consider changing to something that is more fit to purpose.
I wondern how soon Garmin will release an updated device… it is great to see Garmin coming out with a first device so soon after acquiring DeLorme, but please consider we do live in 2017… the simplest smartphone has a better screen than the current Explorer+. It would be so nice to get a device with a good resolution and with the possibilities to use top-class topo-maps.
Garmin, please release something like this 🙂
I am about to purchase my first delorme/Garmin…I had a SPOT..it failed on me..
My question…the older Delorme or the newer Garmin? I’m not technologically savvy so I’m wondering whether the SE or the Explorer on ease of use…Still trying to download maps to GAIA..
Thanks for thoughts!!
Trying to see if the garmin product has the ability to send messages to an email account like the delorme product does.
I am a heavy user (offshore commercial fisherman and pilot) .
From what I am seeing in the garmin marketing there is no mention of being able to communicate to someone’s email address.
I have recommended this product to many people I fish with and would like to know if there is this (in my mind) this defining difference between the two.
If the DeLorme unit had this feature, you can almost be certain that the Garmin-branded product does. The SE+ and Explorer+ were designed and built by DeLorme, but prior to public release Garmin bought them. We haven’t seen a Garmin-designed unit yet.
Yes, it does
Andrew I have enjoyed both your compare and contrast here and the FAQ, wasnt sure where would be better to post. I have the garmin inreach SE and pair it sometimes to an android phone other times to an old Ipad. It miffs me there is not yet an app for windows but I believe there is a workaround for linux geeks? I’d really like to connect and pre plan trips on a touchscreen pc, then just travel with a phone and an inreach. Or just the inreach. I also have an early spot that pairs with a delorme pn60w that I have enjoyed. IMO the maps and communication on a phone or pad are far superior to the Explrer plus. That being said I’d buy the plus for redundancy for sure.
I just reviewed the garmin plans, seem to be the same costwise as Delormes were. Delormes Tech support out of Maine was simply fantastic. I am a boater and have had several Garmin products that I have enjoyed as well. My Garmin GPS map 640 is a cool device for both land and see. Sure it is slow, and sure the touchscreen is retarded in the true sense of the word, and yeah it eats prprietary batteries alive, but so does the delorme chew up Lithium Batteries. I read that the new version does not allow one to readliy switch the battery. If so that is stupid and doesnt allow for the kind of redundany we need to be as safe as possible. I bring spare lithium batts and or quality AA rechargeable batts I can recharge with a small packable solar panel for my 1st gen (or is it 2nd) Inreach.
I hope I got that wrong and one can change out batts and that the device is easily charged off grid be it solar or other. Down with propritary stuff when our lives are at stake!!! I also hope that like my old in reach and my gpsmap 640 there is a spot for a sd card expansion. I mostly offroad and honestly with the maps I download from Earthmate and my limited 2 way texting 15/month plan , The CB and Ham radios are mere backup. I also MTN Bike with my inreach, another article should be just what happens if i push that sos button, have been fortunate enough to have never used it, but its been close.
So to sum it up. SD card on the garmin? I hope so. EZ to charge offgrid? sounds like the garmin has a poor battery choice IMO if not field changeable.
Not sure about the SD card.
As far as charging off the grid, use a portable charger like the Anker 10000: http://amzn.to/2hxS2x5. This is how I charge my inReach in the field if I deplete the battery. But FWIW, I find that I only burn through about 10-20 percent of the battery every week, by only turning it on once or twice a day to send and receive messages. I record a GPX of my track using my Suunto Ambit, https://andrewskurka.com/tag/suunto-ambit/
Correct. No SD cards, and no access to battery.
Tim that IMO is a bummer, but sounds like batt life is good. I have had issues with Garmin (and other) proprietary batteries in the past, and with the cost of replacement.
Interestingly a fellow gude with a great reputation that runs a local gear store is convincing me just to get a sat phone (or sat hub) that some of the plans, if used wisely may be competitive with some Spot/Garmin/other plans????That would be an interesting follow up article. I’ll look up that fitbit Andrew. As far as I know sat phone doesnt send breadcrumbs. Be nice to have an Inreach Sat phone integrated with say an avalanche beacon.. Also sure would be nice that sat phone plans became cheap enough for the masses, free for emergency services. Sure we love getting away from it all, but safety 1st.
You seem to know quite a bit about the product, so I hope you can answer a question about the inReach (Explorer), which I have yet to get a clearanswer from any retailer or Garmin, for that matter. I am currently located in West Africa and travel extensively worldwide. It was my hope to purchase the Explorer and load it with the Europe/Africa maps vice the North America ones.
I have been told (by only half of the people I have spoken with) that if I purchase the product in the U.S. (my intent), those units only have the North America maps and I will be unable to put the Europe/North Africa topo maps on it, due to lack of space. Conversely, if I purchase the product in Europe I cannot set it up with an American subscription plan and will only be able to use the map features in Europe/Africa.
I intend to travel frequently back and forth from Gambia to Spain and would like to have more than just the phone capability, but also the gps map ability, especially when I take more challenging off-road avenues in Mauritania and Morocco. Optimally, I would also like to use the product when I move back to the U.S. in a few years.
Recreationally, I also participate in amateur rallies in Africa and love hiking, so I was looking for an item that is as useful on the desert tracks as it is on mountain footpaths.
What are your suggestions?
I’m not sure of these answers. Best to try to get a firm answer from Garmin.
on this map page: https://inreach.garmin.com/Map click the “Get More Maps” box center/left of page. It appears you can. if space is an issue you can load African countries one at a time.
PS I was looking at the topos which do show minor road & highway in the USA.
Has anyone seen the spot buddy program that uses the Inreach? It’s for the iPhone ?
To the best of my knowledge there is the older spot that pairs only to the Delorme pn60w (handheld GPS when paired I believe only 1 way communication) I have one, bummer that IT IS NOT BLUETOOTH PAIRABLE ( wish I could find a workaround) Spot also makes a bluetooth version that can pair w/ phones. Ithink The Delorme/Garmin Inreaches are much better devices……Spot has what an 100 dollar a year plan. Inreach plans can be as low as 12 dollars a month, provide two way communication and maps, more. I pay 15/mo for a plan i can activate deactivate. I usually just leave it on, prob should switch plans.
I am looking at a Garmin 650 series but having the ability to text in or outgoing from where I spend a lot of time is a big plus for the Inreach series. What holds me back (besides the small screen) is the fact that I can’t import detailed charts or, in some cases, save screenshots of Google Earth and load them in the Inreach. Google Terlingua Ranch and look where I spend some time and you will see why the inreach is appealing. NO cell service, period.
Presumably you will not leave your smartphone in your car. So use that device for screenshots and charts.
I have an older SE unit purchased for me by my wife in November of 2016. Due to some medial issues (broken foot, dislocated shoulder, ruptured achilles tendon, and more,. all at different times in the past 10 months I have not been able to hike and so have not set up my unit.
Do you know if Garmin will still support the older DeLorme SE model, or offer a replacement to the new model.
The device is still in the box, though I’d like to set it up soon as I am going to do a couple of shake down hikes in prep for a thru-hike of the Superior Hiking Trail next year.
Yes, your old Delorme will work.
I doubt though that Garmin will exchange your old unit.
It appears to still be fully supported..just used my SE extensively during the Albacore season which took us offshore for over a week at a time this summer.
…Also remember to update yours with the newest software through the website…it is easy to do.
When I called Garmin inquiring about the SE+ and any differences with the older SE model I was told that the battery is better and as well as the functionality of the antenna of the SE+. Can this be confirmed?
I came across a traffic accident in a remote area where there was no cell phone coverage (luckily, police was already on the scene).
Had there been no police, and to summon help, how would I use my InReach Explorer? Activate the SOS button and tell the call center this is for other people who need help (not me personally)?
No, send sat text msg to a friend to call the emergency services. With your msg they already get the exact coordinates.
If you press sos, you r ultimately liable for the cost of the medivac.
John i would think that would be the thing to do for quickest response Might be worth calling your Emergency Service provider. Cant imagine you’d be responsible financially for say their medivac.
I just found out my AAA premium plan ( Auto club of California in my case Northern ) covers medicvac if you are over 100 miles from home. Thats awesome! Of course most accidents and injuries occur closer to home.
I need a handheld gps for hiking and paragliding. Waypoints and attitude sensor is a must.
What would you recommend ?
If you also would get value from the ability to send SOS or other messages, then you should look at the SE+ or Explorer+.
If you only need a GPS, then I think any basic handheld GPS will suffice. I’m not intimately familiar with the models, sorry. Personally, I use GaiaGPS, an app for my smartphone, but the smartphone does not have an altimeter on it. For that, I have a Suunto Ambit, which is a GPS watch with a barometer-based altimeter.
Depending on your uses of the GPS, you might actually be able to use just the Ambit. It will clearly tell you your altitude. And you can get to the GPS coordinates with a few button presses, or by installing an aftermarket app.
Thank you very much
Anybody happening to know if Garmin is working in an inReach 2.0 or something?
I’ll be able to tell you in a few weeks at ORWM.
Any updates from ORWM about new Garmin Inreach devices? On the fence about purchasing the Explorer+ or waiting.
Didn’t see anything new. And they would have announced it at the big tech show in January anyway.
I’m considering switching from the Garmin data subscription service to Protogear, primarily for the direct email and texting. I’m wondering if anyone has experience with this provider that they are willing to share, + or -. Also, how difficult is it to switch? Thanks!
Hi Rick, I am using Protegear, since April 2017. For the reason you mentioned, and because of their robust server-based alert system (deadman function, sends alerts to designated responders if no movement, or no position updates received). I have not doubt that I will renew my annual subscription this year.
I have posted here several times on my experience with Protegear, mostly in response to other people’s question. See above from 30.7.17 and earlier.
I bought a new Garmin inReach, and started straight with Protegear. So can’t say how difficult it is to switch. Best to contact Protegear via email. Markus will give you immediate, clear and honest answer.
Thanks for your input Tim. I saw a couple of your posts but either me or my “find” protogear also missed a couple. Glad to hear no major negatives. I’ll contact Marcus re the switchover.
thanks for your inquiry.
We would just need your IMEI and AuthCode to make a reassignement,
this might take up to 2 days.
If you want to keep you current datas from inreach.garmin.com,
you should download them before me make the switch,
OR you use a different email adress for your new account.
Thats basically all…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
What exactly is it ? Is it software that connects to the In reach ?
I’m still not getting it. Is it software that connects on your phone via inreach?
Protegear sells satellite data plans for the Garmin and Delorme inReach devices. They are basically a reseller of the Iridium network (the satellite network these trackers work on).
Garmin is an Iridium reseller too (with their inReach data plans). The basic product is the same (i.e., connection to the Iridium sat network), but each reseller may package the product differently by offering different data plans.
Garmin also happens to be a hardware manufacturer, but these are two different roles. Garmin builds the inReach that you then connect to the Iridium sat network. Like when you buy a (any) mobile handset, and then separately decide, which mobile network provider you use to connect your phone.
You may find that Protegear’s data plans are different and more flexible than what Garmin offers. For example, with Garmin – if I remember correctly – you get 2 min tracking intervals only if you buy an *annual* contract. Whereby with Protegear you get daily, weekly and monthly contracts, and you can choose your tracking interval independently.
Even with Protegear, you still use Garmin software to connect to your inReach device:
– Garmin set-up page to configure your inReach (e.g., address book, preset messages)
– Garmin MapShare to view and publish your tracks on the Internet
– Garmin WebUpdater to update the firmware of your inReach device
– Garmin Earthmate to ‘enhance’ you sat track with more detailed GPS position updates downloaded later from the device, and to interface the inReach with your mobile phone
Over and above the data plans, Protegear also offers a number of value added services. As Rick mentioned, for example the dedicated email address of your device. This allows people to contact you *before* you have contacted them. Whereas with Garmin’s data plan, your device’s email address changes every time you switch on the device, and so people wouldn’t know how to contact you unless you message them first.
Or the server-based alert feature that I described above. As Protegear gets a copy of all your position updates and a myriad of other device status flags, it can for example determine, whether you stopped moving, whether you are ‘at base’, whether you are just taking a break, or whether you are indeed in distress.
Protegear maintains a number of activity (or sport) profiles, which can take abrupt changes in altitude, speed or location into consideration in determining whether to trigger alert messages (to designated alert responders) even when you cannot press the SOS button.
Protegear also offers comprehensive, multi-layered geo-fencing.
No, it’s a 3rd party service provider for Inreach devices.
I have the Delorme Inreach explorer — use it with Gaia and earthmate linked to my iphone–all is great. Just haven’t paid attention to their plans so have been paying 34.95 a month–while I really only use it 4-5 times a year for 1-2 weeks at a time at the most.
I found out I can suspend the service–and it seems like the suspension doesn’t occur until the next monthly billing cycle.
My question is –say you suspend service which initiates on Feb 2–and then you decide to go on a trip on February 18 for 10 days so you reactivate service–how long does it actually take to reactivate and once reactivated is that for the entire following month–or can you suspend once you are back from the trip–so what are you actually paying? Thanks!
I have the freedom plan. I suspend/reactivate all the time. It’s nearly instantaneous to reactivate but to suspend, it does not take effect until the next billing cycle.
For example, if your billing cycle ends on the 15th, and you suspend on the 10th, you’ll still have service for 5 days.
If you suspend on Feb 10th, your service goes dark on Feb 15th, but you want to reactivate on Feb 20th, it’s easy and immediate.
I have an Oregon 600 and a SPOT gen 2. I am considering an InReach Explorer + to combine the two, but I’m not familiar with the preloaded digital DeLorme topo maps. How do they compare with the Garmin trail maps? Do they show trails, etc? Does the subscription include updates to the maps? Thanks!
The Explorer+ is preloaded with Garmin’s Topo North America package, which is similar (if not identical) to the preloaded maps on the Oregon 600. They may actually be more detailed — Can someone confirm if the Topo NA package includes 24k resolution in addition to 100k, or just 100k? Yes, the maps do include trails.
I don’t know if the map data is updated automatically when Garmin updates its Topo NA package. It seems like it should, but Garmin seems to get you every way that it can, so I wouldn’t assume.
An update on this, based on some emails I received.
Topo NA is an old Delorme product, not a Garmin product. I remember this now. The resolution goes down to 24k, which is probably better than the base worldmap installed on your Oregon 600.
The map data is not update-able. I would imagine that in a second-generation Explorer+ device, Garmin will use their maps instead of DeLorme’s, but most of the development for this product was done before Garmin bought DeLorme, hence the older map package.
Alan sent me a private email with an update he received from Garmin, which I’d like to share since it has good info:
I am happy to answer your questions about DeLorme mapping. It is important to note that only the inReach Explorer+ has mapping on the device. Other inReach devices use the Earthmate application for phones for mapping.
The inReach Explorer+ has the following maps on it when purchased in North America:
Topo 24K for the US and Canada (Made by DeLorme)
Topo 125K for Mexico (Made by DeLorme)
World Wide BaseMap (Made by DeLorme)
These maps will not receive an update.
You can also add the following maps to the device:
OpenStreetMaps (By OSM: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=4/38.01/-95.84)
Hunting boundaries and land ownership information for all 50 States (Added in Earthmate, cost is 34.95 USD a year)
OSM covers the world. It offers road detail, and light topographic detail. Sometimes they include trails. The device has 12GB of space for adding these additional maps, and they can be changed out on the device. These maps are just like Garmin’s Cycling maps, and receive updates.
One important thing to note is that none of these maps offer automatic routing. This is different from Garmin City Navigator, and Topo 24K maps, which you can put an address or a waypoint into and have the device tell you how to get there by roads and trails. You can plan routes and send them to the DeLorme devices through their product management website (you make an account there when you set up service for the device).
The DeLorme maps include roads, trails, and topographic detail. The best way to compare DeLorme Mapping with Garmin Mapping, in terms of how they look, is to find device comparison articles online, check forums with users, or check out videos on YouTube. While the maps do look different. I do not have an issue switching between the two. Both feel familiar.
On a similar maps question, do you know if the Explorer+ can take New Zealand topo maps for hiking in the backcountry/mountains?
This info may be outdated, but it’s the best I have, https://andrewskurka.com/garmin-inreach-se-explorer-default-downloadable-topo-maps-imagery/
Hi everyone – I am looking for a GPS unit that I can use something similar to Garmin Live Track where family can see my location as I move about while I mountaineer. I currently pair my Garmin Fenix 5x with my Android and use Live Track from within the Garmin Connect app to allow Live Tracking of my location. However, from my understanding, I need to have Cell phone service for Live Tracking to work. I will be planning trips where I knowI will not have cell service and thus, I was wondering of the Explorer+ or SE+ would meet my requirements. Also, are there any other GPS units I should look into (aside from SPOT). Thanks!
Hi Erik R,
Correct, LiveTrack requires an internet connection on your phone.
Here’s an option you might want to consider. Cabela’s has the inReach Explorer on sale for $199.88. With the money you save over buying the Explorer+ you can buy pretty decent hand-held GPS. If you are planning on using an inReach for navigation IMO I would stay away from the SE/SE+ models mainly because they do not have compass sensors.
One other thing since you mentioned you wanted something similar to LiveTrack. The inReach sends track points every 10 minutes (unless you have the Extreme plan then it sends every 2 minutes) so people tracking you won’t see that nice track like you get with LiveTrack.
Thanks Bob… What are a couple handheld GPS options you’d consider pairing the InReach Explorer, from Cabelas, with?
Erik, I haven’t shopped for a handheld GPS in a while so I can’t be much of a help there. I have a Garmin Oregon 600 that I hardly ever use. I prefer to use the Backcountry Navigator Pro app on my Android phone or the Earthmate app paired with my inReach Explorer instead. The Gaia GPS app seems to be the preferred app for most people though.
I mostly use aerial imagery on the job so I bought a $50 prepaid phone to use as a back-up GPS incase something happens to my main phone (Garmin’s GPS Birdseye imagery isn’t all that great). I never activated the service on the prepaid phone and use Wi-Fi and my other phone as a mobile hot spot to download off-grid maps. If you consider going that route the only thing I would suggest is check the specs and make sure the phone has a compass sensor (not all cheap phones do). A compass is not necessary but if you prefer navigating with the GPS set to track up it makes things easier because you don’t have to be moving to get the maps to orient to your direction of travel.
I haven’t considered upgrading my Explorer to an Explorer+ yet because the addition of maps isn’t that important to me but it may be to you. You’ll probably be happy with whatever inReach product you buy just for the piece of mind it provides.
I know very little about these devices and would like some feed back. My wife and I take a couple of long motorcycle tours each year and, since we are getting “older”, our children like to know where we are. Last year I purchased a Spot Tracker and used it on a trip to Alaska. It worked fine. Unfortunately we had a mechanical issue and had to use the rescue button. It’s very unsettling not knowing if the message was received or not. Anyway. I would like to get an in reach device but have a hard time justifying the cost since we only use it once or twice a year. I have an opportunity to purchase a Delorme SE new in the box very cheap. It is just right for our needs. My question is whether or not it will continue to be supported by Garmin. What is the latest thoughts on this?
So long as the device continues to operate, Garmin will sell you a service plan. But they will not repair it if something breaks.
using text option,do both units Explorer+ as well as SE+ both include location when sent to recipient?,thinking am sailing,text my daughter,I am OK,will she know my location?
Do both versions receive weather reports (according to weather plan elected).
Not sure I need the Explorer+ version for this basic needs?
thank you for your help.
Yes to both questions. Both inReach versions will do the job.
I have a Garmin 64st and the workplace picked up the inreach SE+. It bugs me, at this age, how difficult it is to use many of the features of these devices. It’s like they designers have never used a smart phone before.
Anyhow, I’d like to use just the SE+, but it looks like I can’t get topos on it so I’m stuck using two devices – mf.
Do I have this correct?
Correct. the SE+ only has a grid map, no map layer. For that perk, you’d have to get the Explorer+.
However, if you carry your phone with you, you can download the old DeLorme North America TOPO layer (which is the only layer shown on the Explorer+) as well as many other layers, https://andrewskurka.com/2018/garmin-inreach-se-explorer-default-downloadable-topo-maps-imagery/.
Then you’re down to only two devices — the SE+ and your phone. No need to take the 64st with you.
I do a lot of “ bushwhacking “ so I have no trails. Will the newest Garmin in reach Explorer + have the ability to allow me to post coordinates of a summit
Then get me to it?
Yes, it has the NA Topo map added into it, and all the normal GPS functions.
You might want to read this page, to better understand your GPS options, https://andrewskurka.com/navigation-system-equipment-watch-compass-altimeter-gps/
I thought I ran across a picture somewhere of the SE+ with a compass showing on the screen. In several reviews and websites, it says the Explorer+ has a digital compass, barometric altimeter, and accelerometer. Does the SE+ have a compass of any kind?
Per my previous Q, here’s an old REI page with that pic:
Have you done a comparison between the Garmin inReach series and the Garmin GPSMAP series?
Are you actually asking, Have I compared Garmin inReach Mini/SE/Explorer against the Garmin GPSMAP devices with inReach technology?
Either way, I have not.
The inReach functionality should work exactly the same with both categories of devices. Same account type, same subscription costs, same Earthmate app, etc.
The GPS functionality is probably about the same. Same commands (e.g. save waypoints, navigate to them), same proprietary map system.
The biggest difference probably is in the form factor of the device, i.e. screen quality, battery life, button configuration, size/weight.
For some additional GPS info, specifically in how it ties into a larger navigation system, you should read this article, https://andrewskurka.com/navigation-system-equipment-watch-compass-altimeter-gps/
To me, the main difference seems to be that the GPSMAP devices have “Preloaded Garmin TOPO mapping with direct-to-device BirdsEye Satellite Imagery.” I’d be interested on your thoughts on that enhancement.
I haven’t seen this imagery in person, but it sounds like a Landsat-like layer, which is what Google mostly uses for their “Satellite” view.
It’s very rare that I use or have wanted satellite imagery. It’s a nice-to-sometimes-have but by no means essential. Consider that I have the option of downloading this layer to my smartphone (via GaiaGPS or CalTopo app, and possibly Earthmate, can’t remember its available layers) and I don’t remember the last time that I did.
I don’t know the cost differences between GPSMAP and standard inReach devices, but if this is the only differentiating factor I would not pay much for it, if anything at all.
I find sat imagery is much more useful in the planning phase of a trip (or deciding where to go in the first place) than in the field.
The satellite imagery is interesting and the access is free with the purchase of (the expensive) GPSMAP 66i. But I like the Garmin maps. The inReach devices use Delorme maps so when I read that the GPSMAP devices come with “Preloaded Garmin TOPO mapping” it got my attention. I just called Garmin customer support and the rep said the GPSMAP uses Garmin maps, so, for me, that’s a plus.
FYI – Bought a SE+ today at Costco online at a pretty good price. Then went to Garmin website and the SE+ is no longer listed as an active product. Have a feel for if it will be replaced vs. no longer needed with the Mini in the product line?
I have a Garmin pro solar watch and would like to use it in GPS mode to direct me to a summit during a bushwhack. My problem is converting DMS to latitude and longitude. I would appreciate the conversion factors.
DMS is degrees minutes seconds. That is latitude and longitude. Can you clarify what you mean?
Sorry for the confusion. What I am trying to find is a converter for just degrees and minutes. All the ones I seem to find online go all the way to DMS. Got any ideas?
Alan, are you trying to convert Degrees, Minutes, Seconds (DMS) into Decimal Degrees (DD)? The formula is D+(((Mx60)+S)/3600) or simply put keep the degrees the same and to get the decimal portion multiply the minutes by 60, add it to the seconds and divide the result by 3600.
Here is an example 42°57’6.22″N = 42+(((57×60)+6.22)/3600) = 42+((3420+6.22)/3600) = 42+(3426.22/3600) = 42+.9517277777 = 42.9517277777 or 42°57’6.22″N = 42.951728°
The keystrokes on the calculator for 42°57’6.22″N are 57×60+6.22=/3600+42= and you should get the result 42.9517277777
Of course it would be easier to change the coordinate format and datum of your watch to match the format of your paper map and/or your mapping software. As long as the datum is the same, it doesn’t matter what the format of the coordinates is, it will be the same place on Earth. Your watch will do the conversion when you change the GPS position formats in settings.
I am sure there are phone apps out there but here is a link that might help https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/dms-decimal – There is also a calculator widget on the Garmin IQ store if you are ambitious and want tp do the math on your watch.
I still don’t understand what you are wanting to convert. Typically GPS can convert between
Degrees/Minutes/Seconds (e.g., DDD MM SS.SSSS)
Degrees/Decimal Minutes (e.g., DDD MM.MMMMM)
Decimal Degrees (e.g., DDD.DDDDDD)
(Also different coordinate systems like UTM and USNG which I actually prefer but require learning them)
What unit format does the watch give you currently? What unit format are you trying to get? I am not familiar with the watches, but most GPS are set up to do this. The important things are to make sure the datum is correct (WGS84, CONUS NAD27, etc.). If you put in the coordinate you know, then change the format, it will automatically convert it.
I’m wondering if the barometric altimeter in the Explorer+ really makes that much difference. Even when I calibrated it based on known altitude, it still behaved the same as before calibration.
Behaved the same as what? Calibrating it shouldn’t change the way it behaves, just provide greater accuracy.
To me behavior includes accuracy. What I’m saying is I didn’t see any difference before and after calibration. Elev readings still fluctuate about the same amount.
Eric, is Auto Cal Altimeter set to off? If it’s set to ‘on’ altitude is determined by GPS location and it won’t matter what you enter in manually. That would also account for the fluctuation as the GPS accuracy changes.
Thanks Bob S. Yes it was turned on by default. And the elev readings are more stable when turned off. I assumed the barometric altimeter was supposed to work in connection with the GPS location to enhance accuracy, but I guess that’s no the case. It’s one or the other.